Re: Still in a quandary

Kevin Korb (korb@cs.monash.edu.au)
Tue, 23 Jun 1998 17:25:11 -0500

Rich et al.,

> 1) Abandon tradition and write P(X). Indeed this random variable usage may
> not be all that traditional anyway. It seems it may be something started by
> us fairly recently. Looking in other (I admit only the few I own) texts, it
> is used only for real-valued functions in Fisherian texts.

I suspect this is wrong (depending on what you consider recent).
LJ Savage wrote in 1954 Fnd of Statistics (making no distinction
between real & discrete):

"Experts are fairly well agreed on the following definition. A random
variable is a function x attaching a value x(s) in some set X to
every s in a set S on which a probability measure P is defined."

No doubt, he was unduly optimistic.

> 2) Stick with formally defining X as a random variable, but then note that
> in Bayesian applications that this is only true implicitly, that actually
> we indentify X and its values directly. So in practice X becomes more of an
> actual variable, and we say things like `manipulating X'.

It seems to me unobjectionable to talk about either manipulating variables or
manipulating functions. If my dog's barking behavior
(f=doggie-barking-behavior-generator) is a function of its input, I can
manipulate it by presenting it with the right inputs. And, indeed,
I do.

Regards, Kevin